[Trombone-l] Talking About Gear...
crtune at adelphia.net
Sun Nov 6 18:01:34 CST 2005
This really does sound like someone had Googled "Shires Trombone" and got
Hornguys, Steve Ferguson's website. Then dutifully copied the text from
Steve's descriptions. I believe these descriptions are actually not exactly
the same as those on Shires's website. I'd think that Shires site would be
higher up than Hornguys on a Google of "Shires Trombone", because Google
uses the number of times a website is referenced by any other website that
they have catalogued, to indicate relevance. That means Shires own site
would be likely to be the highest in this case, unless for some reason
Hornguys gets referenced a lot by lots of other sites.
When ever you deal with anybody on a horn sale, always insist upon Escrow of
the money. It is worth it for you to offer to PAY all the escrow cost.
After all, you are the one likely to lose all your money and not get the
proper gear, or get stolen, broken or "funky" gear. With escrow, you
indicate whether you received the merchandise in good order, then the
payment is made. This might not help you if you have a good Shires trombone,
but one which is stolen. There cannot be that many stolen Shires horns out
there. Look around on the net to see who has announced a stolen Shires
My reaction to this, is this is someone who doesn't know anything about
trombone selling a Shires horn. My guess: either stolen, or doing it for
somebody else. If they are doing it for somebody else, they should be
willing to admit it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Albert" <jeff at jeffalbert.com>
To: "Bonemaster" <bonemstr at america.net>
Cc: <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Talking About Gear...
> That description he gave does not match the pics on eBay. I'd agree to
> steer clear of that one.
> On Nov 6, 2005, at 9:32 AM, Bonemaster wrote:
>> Okay, so I really like my Shires stuff and am on the lookout for more
>> options at a good price. I see a 'Shires Jazz' on eBay and I write the
>> asking about details that aren't specified in his description, which is:
>> 'I planned to return to my jazz career, but things changed very quickly
>> me--and I have to put my plans on hold. I have not played the horn at
>> ONE gig! So, my challenge provides your opportunity to purchase one the
>> finest horns made at a great price. The Shires is hand-crafted in
>> Boston. It
>> comes with three lead-pipes, two mouthpieces and a hard case. Those of
>> who play professionally know how great this horn is. It plays very open
>> has an immaculate slide.'
>> I inquire:
>> What model is this--yellow or gold bell? 7.5, 7.75 or 8 in bell?
>> Soldered or non-soldered bell rim?
>> What about the slide--std or lightweight? Nickel or brass (yellow or
>> Bore of the slide--.500, .500/.508 or .508?
>> In response I get:
>> .525" slide in nickel, choice of valves and 8" or 8.5" bell. It comes
>> all the components the new item has.
>> What am I missing or failing to understand here? You'd think that the
>> of this type horn would have a better grasp of specs than is exhibited
>> or am I just to darn cynical?
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